Monday, October 01, 2007

SPYS Like Us??

Just another little tidbit from the perpetually wrong MSM: For the benefit of the headline skimmers ... courtesy of National Newswatch....

Also a H/T to Mark at the The Torch

Ottawa Citizen writer David Pugliese, gets this Headline : "Military wants to replace spy plane sooner, not later" to his story on the plans to retire and replace the old Aurora Reconnaissance aircraft.
Now I did not see anywhere in the article any reference to the term SPY used by the writer and certainly in fact the Aurora never held any SPY role ever.

So it seems like a case of the Ottawa Citizen editorial staff creating a false and misleading idea about our military's role and the reasons we need this kind of equipment. (See post below for ONE answer to that question!) OR


Just exactly what motivates these twits?



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Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

who needs equipment when we can all sing kumbaya?

10/01/2007 8:43 p.m.  
Blogger OMMAG said...

Well it's not really a case of not getting the equipment....more like the paper's editors want to stir up controversy.

We actually don't have any sort of spy apparatus like the US does.

The old planes are military recon planes that were primarily needed for sub hunting....mostly used for monitoring fishing fleets and some search and rescue as required.

It's a freekin joke that the paper would call them SPY planes.

10/01/2007 11:28 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That headline threw me for a second too, however, technically they are right.

While they don't mention it in the article, one of the goal's of the present upgrade is "to convert the Aurora into a multi-mission aircraft that can provide over-land surveillance and reconnaissance in addition to its traditional coastal functions." That quote is from Canadian Air Force website.

Because there is no mention about the aircraft's future capabilities once the upgrade's are complete that what makes the headline seem so crazy.

10/02/2007 4:19 a.m.  
Blogger OMMAG said...

Well of course the new planes will have to be more capable ... but it's still a stretch to call them SPY planes....the old or the new.

Spying is a clandestine and covert intelligence gathering...these planes don't and won't have the capability to operate clandestinely.

Until the day when these aircraft are sent over foreign soil to actually spy. They are and will be reconnaissance aircraft.

The use of the term spy is IMO deliberately incendiary on the part of the Ottawa Citizen editorial staff.

10/02/2007 9:10 a.m.  
Blogger dmorris said...

I was under the impression the Aurora's main mission was anti-submarine surveillance.

That REAL spy plane, the SR-71 flew at the Abbotsford Air Show back in the 80's. What a thrill to see that thing smoke by low at 600 mph! Loud, it made more noise than two 747's combined. After the flight, they parked it on the tarmac so we could all get a close up look at it. It looks like "speed" even when parked.

A beautiful piece of military technology, I'd give my left (ahem) to fly in that thing!

10/02/2007 5:07 p.m.  
Blogger OMMAG said...

The Aurora's main military mission was Sub Hunting ... call it surveillance if you like.....

Anyway .... my take on that is that if it's OVERT as opposed to COVERT then it ain't spying.....hence NO SPY plane!
Splitting hairs? I don't think so.

As for flying the sr71 or any of it's iterations ...... OH YES!

Punching in those ABs and shooting for the edge of space at machIII .... thrill of a lifetime ... what a dream!!

10/02/2007 6:14 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the problem here is the word “spy” in the headline which you are quite right is a covert or clandestine activity. However, the Aurora always had a limited gather intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance capability. This may not seem like “spying” in the traditional sense but in reality it is.

With these new upgrades that will change. Here is another quotation from the official air force website on the Aurora program that says the upgraded Aurora has “been re-designated”to “signifying their increased role in performing intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions over land or water, in additional to their more traditional role as a maritime aircraft, hunting for submarines.”

The website reinforces these changes with a further statement “The changes made to the Aurora ....... includes the most modern intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance equipment.”

If you are collecting intelligence then you are spying!

10/03/2007 2:04 p.m.  

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